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Form 1C

Postby researcher3 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:26 pm

Dear Scientists,

For the 1c form for Intel and other science fairs, where your mentor writes about whether your study was part of a larger study, etc. Does it look bad if your study was part of their study, but that you completed all the experimentation by yourself? Do the judges judge you on whether the idea was your's to start with?

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Re: Form 1C

Postby TheScienceJerk » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:53 pm

Original ideas are EXTREMELY rare. So if they see that you did not come up with the original idea, that's okay. What they are looking for is good studying (like you studied their work), no plaigerism, hard work, and a good paper.
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Re: Form 1C

Postby amyc » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:00 am

Hi Researcher3 - I apologize that you have not received a reply yet from a member of the Science Buddies team of Experts in the forums. It sounds like you have already been working on a project in a researcher's lab (or under a mentor's direction)?

I wanted to direct you to a couple of resources that may be helpful from the Advanced Project Guide:

Finding an Idea for an Advanced Science Fair Project
http://www.sciencebuddies.org/science-f ... 2008.shtml

There is some discussion in this resource, which contains input from students who have been involved in top science competitions, about original projects.

This introductory resource may also be of help to you:
Roadmap: How to Get Started on an Advanced Science Project
http://www.sciencebuddies.org/science-f ... dmap.shtml


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Re: Form 1C

Postby John Dreher » Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:58 am

researcher3 wrote:Dear Scientists,

For the 1c form for Intel and other science fairs, where your mentor writes about whether your study was part of a larger study, etc. Does it look bad if your study was part of their study, but that you completed all the experimentation by yourself? Do the judges judge you on whether the idea was your's to start with?

Thanks,


I wouldn't worry about working as part of a larger effort. That's very common in the sciences -- grad students, for example, almost always begin by acting as a research assistant for a faculty member before starting on their thesis research. Even after obtaining a PhD most researchers work as part of a collaboration for some of their work. What matters is independent thought applied to the research, critical thinking, competence, and hard work. For science fairs, the more advanced the research is, the more likely that it will require resources beyond those available to students working on their own. That said, as Amy noted it is important that the work you submit to the science fair still have the basics -- hypothesis, test, critical evaluation, and carefully considered conclusions. The judges will have no trouble picking out what you yourself have accomplished from the context within which it was performed.

Hope that helps. If you have particular points of concern, feel free to post again for more specific advice.
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