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### Re: The study of the decomposition of hair over time

Posted: **Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:27 pm**

by **Rosemary**

In regards to my photos, I took pictures of known distances in micrometers with my microscope and from there used the digital image to get a pixel to micron ratio. I don't know if that makes sense, but I got 0.58um/pixel relationship. I calibrated the ImageJ software with this information and the results are apparently in centimeters, which I can easily convert to micrometers.However, the perimeter it gives me in centimeters turns out to be about 2 micrometers, which makes no sense since it says the area is about 707 micrometers. Do you have any suggestions?

### Re: The study of the decomposition of hair over time

Posted: **Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:13 am**

by **MelissaB**

Hmmm. Can you tell us exactly what you put in all of the fields in the 'set scale' window in Image J, and then give us an example of your results? I suspect this is just a calibration problem, although I'm not sure--that does sound odd.

### Re: The study of the decomposition of hair over time

Posted: **Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:26 pm**

by **Rosemary**

for each of the category's in Set Scale:

Distance in pixels: 77.61

Known distance: 0.004228 cm

pixel aspect ratio: 1.0

unit of length: cm

The distance in pixels I got by drawing a line between two distinct points in which I already had drawn a line before and knew the actual distance (42.28 micrometers).

After I trace hair root one, for example, I get that the area is 1.56x10^-4 cm(1.56 micrometers) and the perimeter is 0.063 cm(630 Micrometers). Last year for my project, the average length of a hair root was about 32 micrometers and the width was about 10 micrometers. So the area and perimeter both seem wrong.

### Re: The study of the decomposition of hair over time

Posted: **Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:23 am**

by **MelissaB**

You're right, that does seem wrong. Have you tried using the magic wand instead of the trace function? The easiest way to do this is to first go to 'adjust' then 'threshold', then adjust it until all the pixels of the hair root are red--those will be black and everything else will be white. (You may need to use an image manipulation program to erase the hair itself so you only have the root.). Then you click on the hair root with the magic wand tool (the one that looks as if there is light coming from the end of a stick), and click 'measure'.

See if that gives you more reasonable values.

### Re: The study of the decomposition of hair over time

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:12 pm**

by **amyc**

Rosemary - I wanted to check in and see how the project went? Did you present already at science fair?

Amy

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