Hi,
I am performing the "How Far Can Sparks Jump?" experiment located at https://www.sciencebuddies.org/science- ... c&from=TSW. As it recommends, I am going to calculate the voltage produced using the formula "dielectric breakdown voltage for air is approximately 3000 V/mm (= 3 kV/mm)". The maximum distance I moved the metal spheres while still seeing a spark was 5mm. If I use this equation, then I would say the voltage produced was 15,000 V (3000 V/mm *5mm). This seems like a lot! Is this correct? If not, what formula do I use to calculate the voltage?
Trey, Indianapolis
How do I calculate voltage?
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- Project Question: I am performing the experiment "How Far Can Sparks Jump?" as shown at www.sciencebuddies.org. I am trying to calculate the voltage of my bar-b-que starter in the experiment. My maximum distance the spark traveled between the metal spheres was 5 mm. According to the formula (dielectric voltage = 3000 v/mm), the voltage would be 15,000 v/5mm, but this seems very high. Is this correct? If not, what would be the correct voltage? Thanks for your help!
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Re: How do I calculate voltage?
tahubbard - All your observations and calculations seem correct. The dielectric breakdown of dry air is approximately 3000V/mm. If you can initiate a spark over 5 mm distance between the spheres the voltage is certainly in the 15,000 volt area. Congratulations.
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Re: How do I calculate voltage?
Yes, quite correct. Scary isn't it?!
However, there are a few qualifiers.
1. Spheres require a slightly higher voltage than needle points.
2. This applies to clean and dry air.
3. This applies to a static charge that will not continue the arc once the static charge is gone.
A few additional items. Damp or dirty air requires only a little lower voltage since it is easier to ionize. Higher elevations will also reduce the voltages until you get to about 50,000 feet, then it goes back up due to a lack of air.
If the power source can sustain a current flow once the arc is started you get a lot of power being dissapated in the arc, as in a lightning bolt or a power line flashover. This can cause considerable damage and frequently starts fires.
However, there are a few qualifiers.
1. Spheres require a slightly higher voltage than needle points.
2. This applies to clean and dry air.
3. This applies to a static charge that will not continue the arc once the static charge is gone.
A few additional items. Damp or dirty air requires only a little lower voltage since it is easier to ionize. Higher elevations will also reduce the voltages until you get to about 50,000 feet, then it goes back up due to a lack of air.
If the power source can sustain a current flow once the arc is started you get a lot of power being dissapated in the arc, as in a lightning bolt or a power line flashover. This can cause considerable damage and frequently starts fires.
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- Posts: 2
- Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:34 pm
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- Project Question: I am performing the experiment "How Far Can Sparks Jump?" as shown at www.sciencebuddies.org. I am trying to calculate the voltage of my bar-b-que starter in the experiment. My maximum distance the spark traveled between the metal spheres was 5 mm. According to the formula (dielectric voltage = 3000 v/mm), the voltage would be 15,000 v/5mm, but this seems very high. Is this correct? If not, what would be the correct voltage? Thanks for your help!
- Project Due Date: 1/28/2011
- Project Status: I am finished with my experiment and analyzing the data
Re: How do I calculate voltage?
Thanks for all your help!

