Hi!
I am doing a project on natural dyes. Having difficulty determining what the dye molecule is that gives the dye bath its color. I am using mint, red cabbage, turmeric, and yellow onion skins. This is what I think they are:
mint - chlorophyll a and b and carotenoids
red cabbage - anthocyanin
yellow onion skins - cepaic acid
turmeric - curcumin
I want to explain how the functional groups on the dye molecule interact with the metal salt mordant and the protein fiber. I am also googling the internet to find the chemical structure of these dye molecules.
I am also having trouble identifying the class of my dyes listed above. I'm not sure if they are acid dyes, direct dyes, since I don't know if I have the right dye constituent. If I know the correct structure for my dye material I can identify the chromophore and the auxochrome.
Any help would be appreciated. My research paper is due on Wednesday, Sept. 23. THANK YOU!!!
Organic/Inorganic Dye Chemistry Help
Moderators: AmyCowen, kgudger, bfinio, MadelineB, Moderators
-
deleted-301898
- Posts: 13
- Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:23 pm
- Occupation: Student: 8th Grade Gifted
- Project Question: Organic/Inorganic Chemistry - Science Fair Project
- Project Due Date: October 1, 2015
- Project Status: I am conducting my research
-
deleted-301898
- Posts: 13
- Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:23 pm
- Occupation: Student: 8th Grade Gifted
- Project Question: Organic/Inorganic Chemistry - Science Fair Project
- Project Due Date: October 1, 2015
- Project Status: I am conducting my research
Sci Fair Research Paper Dye Chemistry due 9/23
Hello!
I have already posted as "Organic/Inorganic Chemistry Help" but haven't received a reply. Please see my previous message on Sept. 19 below. My research paper is due on Wed., Sept. 23. Any help would be great!
Thanks!
*****************************************************************************************************
Hi!
I am doing a project on natural dyes. Having difficulty determining what the dye molecule is that gives the dye bath its color. I am using mint, red cabbage, turmeric, and yellow onion skins. This is what I think they are:
mint - chlorophyll a and b and carotenoids
red cabbage - anthocyanin
yellow onion skins - cepaic acid
turmeric - curcumin
I want to explain how the functional groups on the dye molecule interact with the metal salt mordant and the protein fiber. I am also googling the internet to find the chemical structure of these dye molecules.
I am also having trouble identifying the class of my dyes listed above. I'm not sure if they are acid dyes, direct dyes, since I don't know if I have the right dye constituent. If I know the correct structure for my dye material I can identify the chromophore and the auxochrome.
Any help would be appreciated. My research paper is due on Wednesday, Sept. 23. THANK YOU!!!
I have already posted as "Organic/Inorganic Chemistry Help" but haven't received a reply. Please see my previous message on Sept. 19 below. My research paper is due on Wed., Sept. 23. Any help would be great!
Thanks!
*****************************************************************************************************
Hi!
I am doing a project on natural dyes. Having difficulty determining what the dye molecule is that gives the dye bath its color. I am using mint, red cabbage, turmeric, and yellow onion skins. This is what I think they are:
mint - chlorophyll a and b and carotenoids
red cabbage - anthocyanin
yellow onion skins - cepaic acid
turmeric - curcumin
I want to explain how the functional groups on the dye molecule interact with the metal salt mordant and the protein fiber. I am also googling the internet to find the chemical structure of these dye molecules.
I am also having trouble identifying the class of my dyes listed above. I'm not sure if they are acid dyes, direct dyes, since I don't know if I have the right dye constituent. If I know the correct structure for my dye material I can identify the chromophore and the auxochrome.
Any help would be appreciated. My research paper is due on Wednesday, Sept. 23. THANK YOU!!!
-
deleted-71603
- Former Expert
- Posts: 533
- Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:59 pm
Re: Organic/Inorganic Dye Chemistry Help
Hello. I am sorry you haven't received a reply yet. The experts are all volunteers and ones with this expertise may not have viewed your question, yet. I applaud you doing research on your own, and hopefully an expert will respond soon. Thank you for using Science Buddies.
Deana
-
deleted-301898
- Posts: 13
- Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:23 pm
- Occupation: Student: 8th Grade Gifted
- Project Question: Organic/Inorganic Chemistry - Science Fair Project
- Project Due Date: October 1, 2015
- Project Status: I am conducting my research
Re: Organic/Inorganic Dye Chemistry Help
Hi,
I never did receive a reply and had to turn in my research paper with the information that I had. I still have time to make corrections before science fair, so if anyone can verify that my guess is correct that would be helpful.
Thank you.
I never did receive a reply and had to turn in my research paper with the information that I had. I still have time to make corrections before science fair, so if anyone can verify that my guess is correct that would be helpful.
Thank you.
-
kmyers2040
- Former Expert
- Posts: 20
- Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:45 pm
- Occupation: Astronautical Engineer
- Project Question: Registering to volunteer as an expert in the forum.
- Project Due Date: n/a
- Project Status: Not applicable
Re: Organic/Inorganic Dye Chemistry Help
Hello,
I did some internet research and came up with the same molecules that you listed. Good job doing your research to come up with those molecules, I had to dig into some scientific journal articles to find some of them. Don't forget to list all your sources for your project, I'm sure it took a lot of work to track all that information down. Good luck with the science fair and let us know if you have any other questions.
I did some internet research and came up with the same molecules that you listed. Good job doing your research to come up with those molecules, I had to dig into some scientific journal articles to find some of them. Don't forget to list all your sources for your project, I'm sure it took a lot of work to track all that information down. Good luck with the science fair and let us know if you have any other questions.
-
deleted-301898
- Posts: 13
- Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:23 pm
- Occupation: Student: 8th Grade Gifted
- Project Question: Organic/Inorganic Chemistry - Science Fair Project
- Project Due Date: October 1, 2015
- Project Status: I am conducting my research
Re: Organic/Inorganic Dye Chemistry Help
Thank you for your help! I feel better now that I know I'm on the right track. 

