Dissolution rates of different types of pain relievers.

[hhamodat]

Hi,

I don't know what happened but all of a sudden i can't open my topic posts any more of page 2, neither can i add a post on. Well i don't know if anyone replied to me yet but I am wondering if anyone here knows french. I am in late french immersion and i was wondering if you can read over my proposal especially the procedure incase i need to add anything. I would really appreciate it if you could. As for the *pre-test* zzzzdoc advised me to do i previously mentioned that it didn't work so i don't know how much fluid i should put. I did put on my proposal 125 ml and to get about 1125 ml of HCl and 1125 ml of Water. I am also wondering about how i can make my project any more creative or interesting or different because this project has been done several times! Please reply to me if anyone knows french. I would really appreciate it!

Thanks

Hayam

[hhamodat]

I forgot to mention that I have to hand my proposal in TOMORROW! So i'm kind of in a panic so I would really like it if I got replied today! Thanks,

Hayam

[Bob.Burkhart]

Sorry, but I don't have enough French to help with a science project.

Good luck.

[Louise]

I forgot to mention that I have to hand my proposal in TOMORROW! So i'm kind of in a panic so I would really like it if I got replied today! Thanks,

Hayam

We here ran in to the same problem with the message board. Someone is working on fixing it. I think you are the last person to post there- when I got a notification you replied, I was unable to see it.

I don't speak french, but I will post a message to the other experts letting them know that you have opened a new thread. I don't think it is necessarily appropriate that people edit your proposal. However, if you posted an english outline of what you've put in, I'm sure many people would be happy to give suggestions.

What do you mean that you couldn't get zzzzdoc's experiment to work? You couldn't get a crushed pill to dissolve in any amount of water? I find that unbelievable... I've dropped uncoated pills in the sink by accident and they have dissolved rather rapidly.

Louise

[Louise]

Okay, your old thread is fixed, so be sure to check both. I'd move discussion back to that one, since it has a bunch of comments. The problem was with a tag not being closed, so if you use formatting like the smilies or the bolds, preview and make sure they work. Apparently, sometimes they don't and then it crashes everything.

I will post some comments to your questions back on the other thread.

Louise

[hhamodat]

I am so happy! I just did the pre-experiment and I got excellent results. I tried it with warm water and I tried different amounts of water and put it in a ziploc bag and squished the bag repeatedly. I tried it with 125 ml, 30 ml, and 10 ml and they the first two dissolved at around the same time but the 10 ml dissolved even faster! Except for all there were particles because of the filler. So now i can do it with 10 ml and it won't matter! So now all i need to focus on is knowing the percentage of the inactive ingredients. They only took about 4 minutes and 20 seconds to dissolve- that's really good. Thanks so much zzzzdoc and louise! Your information really helped me- i really appreciate it. I tried calling 2 companies and they said that i was out of the area to call. By the way, is there any luck in a french speaking expert? It's not that important but i would really appreciate it! I still can't open my other topic- but I can tell if I got any replies!

Thanks a bunch everyone!

Hayam

[Louise]

I am so happy! I just did the pre-experiment and I got excellent results. I tried it with warm water and I tried different amounts of water and put it in a ziploc bag and squished the bag repeatedly. I tried it with 125 ml, 30 ml, and 10 ml and they the first two dissolved at around the same time but the 10 ml dissolved even faster! Except for all there were particles because of the filler. So now i can do it with 10 ml and it won't matter! So now all i need to focus on is knowing the percentage of the inactive ingredients. They only took about 4 minutes and 20 seconds to dissolve- that's really good. Thanks so much zzzzdoc and louise! Your information really helped me- i really appreciate it. I tried calling 2 companies and they said that i was out of the area to call. By the way, is there any luck in a french speaking expert? It's not that important but i would really appreciate it! I still can't open my other topic- but I can tell if I got any replies!

Thanks a bunch everyone!

Hayam

Glad it worked! I just posted in the other thread, so it is fixed. Try closing your browser and going back in.

Louise

[deleted-2131]

I can look over your French proposal for you. Please post it and I will get back to you.

[deleted-71576]

Yes, we were all struggling to be able to get to that thread. It crashed as we all found out.

Glad you figured out that it only takes a small quantity of water to dissolve the substances. Far less than I would have guessed. And yes, the filler is everywhere in the solution. For a medicine to get into the body, it just has to get out of the pill. What happens to the pill / capsule after that just isn't important at all. It can leave the body intact, and so long as the active ingredient is released, all is well.

Never spoke French, so can't help there. Thankfully, Terik can.

[hhamodat]

This is my proposal:

But:
La raison de ce projet est à trouver quelle type d’analgésique comprimé donnes-tu le plus rapide soulagement. Les analgésiques sont aspirine, Ibuprofèn, Naproxen Sodium, et Acétaminophène. Je serais trouver ça par mesure combien se prend pour un comprimé à dissoudre. J’ai un mal à la tête presque chaque jour et je veux le plus rapide soulagement. Alors, après avoir faire ça, je saurai quelle type d’analgésique à utilise pour ai le plus rapide soulagement.

Hypothèse:
Je pense que Acétaminophène donnera le plus rapide soulagement base sur le fait ce dit sur le flacon « agit rapidement de façon temporaire pour soulager. » Plus, ce a non couché et je pense les comprimés sans une couche se dissoudre plus rapide.

Variables:
Indépendante : La type d’analgésique comprimé être testé.
Dépendante : Combien ce prend pour les différentes type de comprimés à dissoudre.

Contrôles :

• La qualité d’acide hydrochlorique (ou chaque comprimé est dissoudre dans. (125 ml)·
  La température de l’acide hydrochlorique chaque comprimé est dissoudre dans. (34º à 37º)·
  La concentration de l’acide hydrochlorique.·
  La force des comprimés. (régulier)·
  L’endroit ou l’expérience est être tenir. ·
  La quantité de chaque type de comprimé être testé.·
  La vitesse de remue de la remuer de magnétique

Matériel :
Choses nécessaires pour faire l’expérience :

• 125 ml -Acide hydrochlorique ou vinaigre si tu ne peux pas obtenir l’acide. -Un laboratoire
  5 comprimés-Ibuprofèn -ma maison
  5 comprimés-Acétaminophène-ma maison
  5 comprimés-Aspirine -Walmart
  5 comprimés-Naproxen Sodium-Walmart
  1-chronomètre digital -ma maison
  1-bécher ver-l’école
  1-paire de gant -ma maison
  1-un tablier de laboratoire-l’école
  1-paire de lunettes-l’école
  1-thermomètre-la maison
  1-rumeur de magnétique-Un laboratoire
  175 ml-L’eau-la maison

Procédé :

1.Met les gants, le tablier, et des lunettes.

2.Organiser la rumeur de magnétique, le bécher, le chronomètre digital et le thermomètre.

3.Avec le thermomètre, fait sûre la température de l’acide de hydrochlorique est 37º (la température du corps), si ce n’est pas ça, chaleur ou frais l’acide à avoir la raison température.

4.Verse 1125 ml de l’acide hydrochlorique à 1125 ml de l’eau. PAS L’EAU À L’ACIDE- ACIDE À L’EAU! Maintenant tu as 2250 ml de solution.

5.Verse 125-ml de solution dans la bécher.

6.Met la bécher sur la rumeur de magnétique et met l’aimant de la rumeur de magnétique dans la bécher.

7.Goutte un analgésique dans une bécher et allume la rumeur de magnétique.

8.Immédiatement commence à propos combien de temps se prend pour l’analgésique se dissoudre complètement.

9.Quand les analgésiques comprimés se dissoudre complètement rapport le temps et se débarrasser de la solution correctement.

10.Lave la bécher et tous les matériaux, et sécher complètement.

11.Répète les étapes # 4-9 et n’oublie pas à fait chaque type 5 temps à fait sûre le répond est raison.

12.Fait la moyenne de chaque marque.

13.Vous avez finissez!

Résultat :
L’original but de cette expérience est d’à trouver quelle type d’analgésique comprimé donnes-tu le plus rapide soulagement. Je vais trouver ça par mesure combien se prend pour le comprimé a dissoudre. Je serai utilise la rumeur de magnétique, et l’acide de hydrochlorique (ou vinaigre.) Je ferai les graphiques et tableaux comme ça : (sur le prochain page)

[hhamodat]

ok je fait une erreur. pour #4 :Verse 125 ml de l’acide hydrochlorique à 175 ml de l’eau. PAS L’EAU À L’ACIDE- ACIDE À L’EAU! Maintenant tu as 300 ml de solution. et pour #5.Verse 15-ml de solution dans la bécher

desolee!

Merci,
Hayam

[deleted-2131]

Hayam,

It looks good. Your tenses all seem to agree, your subjects and verbs seem to agree, and your genders seem to match. Of course, I'm not a French teacher nor a native speaker, so I can't ensure that it is 100% error free, but I do not see any glaring mistakes.

Everything makes much more sense to me now. I just have one question: are you going to be using HCl of vinegar, because your procedure says "HCl (or vinegar)."

You are lucky to be particpating in an immersion program!

[hhamodat]

Thank you sooo much Terik for looking over my proposal. I am going to use HCl but Caroline Thorn told me to add vinegar just incase someone can't find HCl. I handed in my proposal and so i'm looking foward to my marks. Is your first language french? It's the third for me and i'm really glad i got in french immersion this year! Thanks again!

[deleted-2131]

French is my second language.

Thanks for working so diligently on your project.

[hhamodat]

Thanks again!