Recording On a Wire Problem

Ask questions about projects relating to: aerodynamics or hydrodynamics, astronomy, chemistry, electricity, electronics, physics, or engineering.

Moderators: AmyCowen, kgudger, bfinio, MadelineB, Moderators

Locked
babbity rabbity
Posts: 4
Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:17 pm
Occupation: student
Project Question: Recording on a Wire
Project Due Date: 4/30/08
Project Status: I am conducting my experiment

Recording On a Wire Problem

Post by babbity rabbity »

:cry: For recording on a wire, I can't get the wire to stay tight around the wheels. any suggestions?

The recorder is built, I have tested the conections, this seems to be the only problem
HELP PLEASE, THE SCIENCE FAIR IS COMING!
thanks,
Babbity Rabbity
davidkallman
Former Expert
Posts: 675
Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2005 3:38 pm

Re: Recording On a Wire Problem

Post by davidkallman »

Hi babbity rabbity,

I assume you're doing the project at:
https://www.sciencebuddies.org/science- ... ?from=Home

My only suggestion is to carefully read the project description and make sure that you're following all the steps.

My hunch is that the steps that may be causing your problem are:
- preparation of the core including the use of tape (step 2b)
- soldering of the wire (step 4c)

Note, I have no direct experience with this project. Maybe others can help.
Cheers!

Dave
babbity rabbity
Posts: 4
Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:17 pm
Occupation: student
Project Question: Recording on a Wire
Project Due Date: 4/30/08
Project Status: I am conducting my experiment

Re: Recording On a Wire Problem Re:thanx

Post by babbity rabbity »

:|I have made sure I did not scrape any coating off the magnet wire (if I did, it can cause a short inside the wraping of the core), and the problem I have is with getting the recording wire past the head without it coming off the wheels. I used a digital multimeter to test for continuity, shorts, and opens, so the soldering is fine.

thanks anyway, :wink:
Babbity Rabitty
Craig_Bridge
Former Expert
Posts: 1297
Joined: Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:47 am

Re: Recording On a Wire Problem

Post by Craig_Bridge »

By "wheels" I'm going to assume you mean "spools" or "reels" as in a "source" and "takeup" spools. You need some tensioning mechanism on the source spool to so that it keeps enough force on the takeup spool to keep enough tension on the recording wire so that it keeps in contact with the head gap. You may also need some notched guides to keep the wire positioned so it goes straight across the head and doesn't slip up or down and off the head.
-Craig
babbity rabbity
Posts: 4
Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:17 pm
Occupation: student
Project Question: Recording on a Wire
Project Due Date: 4/30/08
Project Status: I am conducting my experiment

Re: Recording On a Wire Problem

Post by babbity rabbity »

Craig_Bridge wrote:...tensioning mechanism on the source spool to so that it keeps enough force on the takeup spool to keep enough tension on the recording wire so that it keeps in contact with the head gap...
Thanks Craig--
:? could you give some advice on a tensioner material other than a teflon cylynder (I would have to pay a lot for teflon) ?

Thanks Craig :wink:
Babbity Rabbity
Craig_Bridge
Former Expert
Posts: 1297
Joined: Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:47 am

Re: Recording On a Wire Problem

Post by Craig_Bridge »

One of the simplest ways to obtain a tension force on the source spool is friction. Anything that will apply an adjustable amount of compression force to the "hub" of the spool so that it rubs against a fixed piece as it turns can be used to control the amount of friction and thus the tension on the wire.
-Craig
Chrsk13
Posts: 1
Joined: Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:03 pm
Occupation: Student
Project Question: Recording on a wire
Project Due Date: 1-5-09
Project Status: I am conducting my experiment

Re: Recording On a Wire Problem

Post by Chrsk13 »

We understand how to cut the ferrite core and wrap the magnet wire around the core. Our current problem is that we are unsure how the magnet wire and hookup wire connect to each other and then to the amplifier. Any help would be great because the due date is coming fast.
Craig_Bridge
Former Expert
Posts: 1297
Joined: Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:47 am

Re: Recording On a Wire Problem

Post by Craig_Bridge »

Our current problem is that we are unsure how the magnet wire and hookup wire connect to each other and then to the amplifier.
Typically you solder the hookup wire to the magnet wire by stripping about 3/8 of an inch of insullation from the hookup wire and gently scraping about 3/8 of an inch of enamel from the magnet wire and then wraping the magnet wire around the hookup wire and soldering the connection. As far as hooking up the connections to the amplifier, that will depend on what connection provisions the amplifier input has. Typical connections may involve a jack and you have to wire to a mating plug or they may involve solderless hookup points like 5 way binding posts or screw terminals or they maybe solder connections. Without seeing the amplifier I can't be more specific.
-Craig
Locked

Return to “Grades 6-8: Physical Science”